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09-27-2011, 08:56 PM
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Need Help on Identifying the correct Trubocharger
I've got a stock 4AGE BT 20V and in a plan to increase HP from 169 to 250. THerefore I'm a bit confused in choosing the right one from T3 50, T3 60 and T04E 40. Therefore I need help in choosing the right one.
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09-28-2011, 07:56 AM
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If you are looking for 250 and don't plan to go above 300 a T3 60 or Super 60 is the route I would go.
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09-28-2011, 07:13 PM
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According to Compressor Map, it was stated to keep the air flow efficency above 65%. Will there be any harm if the curve goes above 70% but stays below 80%.
I've also calculated and found for a T3 60 @ 200HP or 20lb/min and 10psi boost or 1.68 pressure ratio I plotted and found the efficency at 68% with approx 90000 RPM but for 300HP and 15psi boost the efficency is found at 65% with higher RPM 132800.
Where as for T04E 40 I'll get 300HP at 10psi boost with 65% efficency at around 80000 RPM.
Therefore would you please clarify me more in depth because I might be missing something.
Last edited by MoonGT; 09-28-2011 at 07:16 PM.
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10-01-2011, 07:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MoonGT
According to Compressor Map, it was stated to keep the air flow efficency above 65%. Will there be any harm if the curve goes above 70% but stays below 80%.
I've also calculated and found for a T3 60 @ 200HP or 20lb/min and 10psi boost or 1.68 pressure ratio I plotted and found the efficency at 68% with approx 90000 RPM but for 300HP and 15psi boost the efficency is found at 65% with higher RPM 132800.
Where as for T04E 40 I'll get 300HP at 10psi boost with 65% efficency at around 80000 RPM.
Therefore would you please clarify me more in depth because I might be missing something.
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There's no danger in moving around the efficiency island no. It's all about the optimal efficiency though so the compressor that produces the amount of CFM you want at the highest efficiency for the pressure ratio you want to run is the way to go.
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10-07-2011, 09:06 PM
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Therefore I can say that 65% is the benchmark from where I can start getting the efficiency and if I go below then there'll be power loss...
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10-08-2011, 09:09 PM
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Quote:
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Therefore I can say that 65% is the benchmark from where I can start getting the efficiency and if I go below then there'll be power loss...
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That's a valid assumption
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10-09-2011, 05:44 AM
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Thanks for the help!!!
BTW is the T3 flange and T04E flange the same?
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10-10-2011, 09:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MoonGT
Thanks for the help!!!
BTW is the T3 flange and T04E flange the same?
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No the T3 flange is smaller than a T04 flange
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10-21-2011, 09:41 PM
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If I go with T3 60 do I need an aftermarket ECU or the stock ECU will be good enough for 250 bhp?
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10-24-2011, 12:56 PM
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Quote:
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If I go with T3 60 do I need an aftermarket ECU or the stock ECU will be good enough for 250 bhp?
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You'd really need to get with a professional tuner and make sure your setup can support the power you are after. Its tough to make that kind of call over the net.
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