[52172]

Well just got the turbo back from you guys at turbonetics they rebuilt it with the RMA # 71465 and now the car has the exact same symptoms as before!! Brian Cerny even came to look at the car before we removed the turbo to be sent in for warranty work and he checked everything over to make sure it was definitly the turbo that was failing causing the heavy smoke under boost and he was sure it was the turbo couldn't be anything else since the oil feed and drain were situated properly.

Now when we read the failure report the guy used a word or term we have never heard before and the guys at turbonetics did not understand what the word ment either and I not able to speak to the person who tore down my turbo and rebuilt it. This turbo is a brand new unused zero miles turbo. I am trying to get ahold of Brain Cerny so that he will take another look at the car and speak to Rob over at the shop where my car is Strictly Performance. Can someone check the failure report on my turbo and figure out what that word was that was used to describe the internal failure they said they had found an internal seal failure and supposedly fixed it, but THE TURBO IS NOT FIXED. Please help turbonetics.

[Robert]

Originally Posted by 52172

Well just got the turbo back from you guys at turbonetics they rebuilt it with the RMA # 71465 and now the car has the exact same symptoms as before!! Brian Cerny even came to look at the car before we removed the turbo to be sent in for warranty work and he checked everything over to make sure it was definitly the turbo that was failing causing the heavy smoke under boost and he was sure it was the turbo couldn't be anything else since the oil feed and drain were situated properly.

Now when we read the failure report the guy used a word or term we have never heard before and the guys at turbonetics did not understand what the word ment either and I not able to speak to the person who tore down my turbo and rebuilt it. This turbo is a brand new unused zero miles turbo. I am trying to get ahold of Brain Cerny so that he will take another look at the car and speak to Rob over at the shop where my car is Strictly Performance. Can someone check the failure report on my turbo and figure out what that word was that was used to describe the internal failure they said they had found an internal seal failure and supposedly fixed it, but THE TURBO IS NOT FIXED. Please help turbonetics.

Keep in mind that even if the turbo itself failed the root cause of the issue might not be the turbo itself. If the gravity return is kinked or not flowing properlly its going to cause the seals to keep failing. Also need to check the oil feed line and oil pressure and make sure there isn't too much pressure going into the bearing too. A lot of people automatically assume after a rebuild the turbo is bad again when its usually something else causing the failure of the turbo.

[52172]

Well like I said Brian Cerny looked the setup over before and everything looked fine they even ran the car and the pressure is normal for an ls1. It is 45 psi @ idle and goes up to around 60-70 under WOT. There are no kinks. Is there a way to measure the pressure coming out of the oil feed we are just going by the oil pressure gauge in the car? How soon will the seals fail if there is too much pressure going to the turbo? Did my seals get ruined again if indeed it is too much oil pressure in the feed line? We have a -4 an oil feed I am wondering if we need to try a -3 an oil feed line to slow the oil flow to the turbo? Can you ask Brian if he has spoken with Rob @ strictly performance yet? He will know who I am just from the warranty repair number and from Rob.

[Robert]

Originally Posted by 52172

Well like I said Brian Cerny looked the setup over before and everything looked fine they even ran the car and the pressure is normal for an ls1. It is 45 psi @ idle and goes up to around 60-70 under WOT. There are no kinks. Is there a way to measure the pressure coming out of the oil feed we are just going by the oil pressure gauge in the car? How soon will the seals fail if there is too much pressure going to the turbo? Did my seals get ruined again if indeed it is too much oil pressure in the feed line? We have a -4 an oil feed I am wondering if we need to try a -3 an oil feed line to slow the oil flow to the turbo? Can you ask Brian if he has spoken with Rob @ strictly performance yet? He will know who I am just from the warranty repair number and from Rob.

I will try to reach Brian today but I can say that most in fact almost all Turbonetics turbos use a -3 oil feed line not a -4

[FullyBoosted]

Originally Posted by Robert

I will try to reach Brian today but I can say that most in fact almost all Turbonetics turbos use a -3 oil feed line not a -4

First off I don?t recall looking at your car. I pulled the paperwork for that warranty turbo that came in and it check out good. We just did a standard rebuild on that turbo and replace the repair kit. There has to be something wrong with your setup.

check this list below as a starting point.

-4 line is ok but that is the max on the oil feed
What size is your drain?
Do you have any 90's on your drain setup?
Is your oil feed at a 12 o' clock with no greater than a
15' from vertical??

[Robert]

Originally Posted by FullyBoosted

First off I don?t recall looking at your car. I pulled the paperwork for that warranty turbo that came in and it check out good. We just did a standard rebuild on that turbo and replace the repair kit. There has to be something wrong with your setup.

-4 line is ok but that is the max on the oil feed
What size is your drain?
Do you have any 90's on your drain setup?
Is your oil feed at a 12 o' clock with no greater than a
15' from vertical??

Thanks for posting Brian!

[52172]

Hello there Brian thanks for chiming in. I am the person who has left two voice mail messages on your machine yesterday and today. I thought Rob had you come down to strictly to take a look at the setup I guess not? He is going to get in contact with you today regarding the oiling issue. To anwer your questions above yes I believe the feed is in the 12 oclock position and no there are no 90 degree bends in the drain it has a straight downhill path and the pan is tapped above oil level. The drain line is a -10 an drain line. Rob is now stumped on this problem and has no idea what it could be. Could you please give him a call @ Strictly Performance today? I guess you and him know each other from doing bussiness. He had just finished another camaro with the exact same setup as mine right before me and that car did not have any oiling issues?????? What could be our problem? Rob is even ready to have the car towed to you so you could look it over???? Brain please call Rob @ Strictly the number is 818-342-5693 we need to figure this out asap please. I just spoke to Rob and everything checked out ok with what you told us to start with????????????????

[52172]

Brian did you and Rob talk yet?

[52172]

Robert what do you suggest doing next everything above checked out just fine. Should we try swapping in a -3an feed line instead of the -4an or use a restrictor?

[Robert]

Originally Posted by 52172

Robert what do you suggest doing next everything above checked out just fine. Should we try swapping in a -3an feed line instead of the -4an or use a restrictor?

Don't use a restrictor. That is definitely not supported. Turbonetics does not recommend running any restrictor on their turbos. I know you said you checked the car but did you also check the PCV system. Several people have had an issue just like this before and the PCV was either clogged or not routed properlly. Do you have a catch can?